The dream can come true...

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The dream can come true...

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Postby ravanwin » Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:42 am

cool.

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Postby dan » Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:33 pm

so let's buy it, right?

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Postby ravanwin » Mon Jan 21, 2008 2:56 pm

ok. if there is no objection in 24 hours. dan gorman will make the purchase. great idea!

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Postby Gandhi » Mon Jan 21, 2008 3:02 pm

makes sense!

As you are both slightly crazy, I am wondering whether you are serious or not. :? ?

You crazy monkeys!
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Postby dan » Mon Jan 21, 2008 3:04 pm

23 hours 43 minutes and counting...

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Postby Gandhi » Mon Jan 21, 2008 3:06 pm

I'll give you a grand for timeshare
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Postby dan » Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:19 pm

i am being serious

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Postby Gandhi » Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:27 pm

is Ryan?

Well, it looks amazing, could be genius, could be a big mistake. Spin the wheel of fate.
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Postby swithun » Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:46 pm

Cool. It's within commuting distance of North Uist too. What's not to like?

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Postby Shannon » Tue Jan 22, 2008 10:13 am

No - Leith before that!

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Postby bill » Tue Jan 22, 2008 10:46 am

what! a huge house on an island where we will be able to make it through the apocalypse or a quarter of the size shop in leith? mmmmmmmm



whats it garden like. i want a big garden. is this actually cheap for remote places in scotland?

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Postby dan » Tue Jan 22, 2008 1:29 pm

yes it's amazing. good garden, right on the sea. I can't believe you would prefer to be in a crap shop in leith!!! Next door is Rua Phoil organic farm and woofing centre...
So shall we make an offer?

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Postby Gandhi » Tue Jan 22, 2008 1:30 pm

start low....£12.50
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Postby dan » Tue Jan 22, 2008 1:31 pm

right man if no-one's going to be serious about living dreams then forget about it...

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Postby swithun » Tue Jan 22, 2008 2:17 pm

I feel bad now for making fun of your dream, Dan. Sorry.

But at the same time, living dreams is a kind of prisoner dilemma. If everyone tries to do it, then no one can. Dreams are personal, rather than cooperative and communal. What I like about the Forest as it is now is that it is these things, rather than being a single vision shared by everyone.

I don't know what my dream would be, but I doubt it would be as viable as the Forest is. So luckily no one is living my dream. The fact that we all pull in different directions is what keeps us together. We are closer to living our dreams by not seeking to live them.

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Postby Gandhi » Tue Jan 22, 2008 2:22 pm

Im sorry Dan. I feel bad.
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Postby ravanwin » Tue Jan 22, 2008 2:33 pm

for the record - i serious.

shall we have a serious meet?

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Postby dan » Tue Jan 22, 2008 3:02 pm

no it's cool, it's fair enough to slate ideas if you not into them, i do it all the time! well i don't know if we have time for a serious meet though, date up end of jan. but it does feed into the bigger picture of possible moves etc. maybe we should coordinate a meet up for that? Like soon? Like this weekend?
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Postby Gandhi » Tue Jan 22, 2008 3:14 pm

It looks amazing and if the chance and money is in place to go for it then it should definately be looked at seriously.
Until now I thought you guys actually were joking, but I've been proven wrong....its hard to grasp the tone of sentences when you just see them in writing.
You wanna buy it...to live there?, move the Forest there?, rent it out? all the above?
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Postby ravanwin » Tue Jan 22, 2008 3:33 pm

i think if forest can help some people splinter and create a sister project that feeds into the original than we should do that. I do not think we should close the forest ever but we should think about our growth to keep the project interesting and ever changing. an island outpost would be a lovely and workable thing that can benifit all of us.

i think we could do something new in leith or in skye or in a ruin somewhere. obviously when i say we i don't mean all of us and the we means a meeting of new people too that can feed back into the original forest.

i think what dan and me and bloo have been looking for for sometime is another outpost somewhere one that preferably doesn't sell burritos.

My friend had a bookstore in philly. it was quite big and made good money. He also had a small bookshop out in cape cod where he'd send one or two staff members to for 6 - 8 months to run the shop but it was mostly quiet there and they could write or practice their art and it wasn't as hectic as philly.

I don't know how the forest can pull this off but it would be nice to think about.

anyway . 2 cents.

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Postby Gandhi » Tue Jan 22, 2008 3:45 pm

That sounds cool. I like the idea. Would this be in Britain or would you think about elsewhere on the planet? If you bought land you could speak to Tim and his sister in New Zealand...don't they design eco buildings and stuff?
Anyway, I'm getting carried away. I definately agree that supporting splinter peeps if possible is a good thing and I definately feel the expanding the Forest (not franchising!) would be an excellent thing.
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Postby Shannon » Tue Jan 22, 2008 6:58 pm

Actually, I don't know that I'm into Leith at all. I just really hate reading things like 'in 24 hours if no one objects' when the issue is a big one. Let us meet and discuss and then act...

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Postby Shannon » Tue Jan 22, 2008 7:09 pm

Thinking about this more, a Scottish outpost makes far more sense than all of our other ideas about buying ruins in far off places. It means that more people who have been involved in Forest 1 would be able to visit, at the very least. It will be a great spot for the Forest roadshow. It looks like there is space for gardens and permaculture type stuff to happen. Owning will mean that we can do things like install solar water heaters and insulate properly. Next time we do a big visioning session we can have the retreat there. We could hire it out to other groups that need a place for a weekend, etc. The logistics of buying will be better. The fact that it is already a functioning hostel means there is a ready mortgage paying aspect in place. I really like the comparison to the Cape Cod bookshop. This kind of place could be run with far fewer people than Forest and it becomes an investment, as well.

The January 31st closing date is a big problem though. We have never sat down and done a proper business plan. What are the chances of getting a bank to agree to giving us money in enough time to make an offer? If we're going to be seriously looking at properties, we should really go have another meeting with Triodos.

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It's like God's vagina!

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Postby baloo » Sun Jan 27, 2008 10:44 pm

up and at it.

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up and at it.

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Postby emily » Mon Jan 28, 2008 8:45 pm

Not that I have an opinion on this... but some of you might be interested in . On an island off the coast of Washington state. Started out as a hostel, now a venue and residency programme. One of my favourite places to be.

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It's like God's vagina!

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It's like God's vagina!

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Postby baloo » Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:01 pm

fukc it all, let's go.
up and at it.

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Postby baloo » Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:03 pm

"this world is a bridge.
It connects the unknown to the unknown.

Build no house on this bridge."
Jesus, from the Koran.

(ie:fukc it, let's go.)
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Postby milk » Wed Mar 12, 2008 7:15 am

on a related note..

i've been thinking a bit about the concept of recently. my interested was sparked 2/3 years ago when i ended up for the after-party of a club night at such a scheme in hulme, manchester called Homes for Change. i loved how the co-operative had been involved with the site from the planning phase and that it used concepts of progressive urbanism to make the space conducive to the social aspect of the community, such as multiple communal areas near to flat entries plus communal roof gardens, a fair sized area outside each flat for the occupant to customize or use in whatever way they see fit, an enclosed grass courtyard and play area overlooked by the communal areas, walk ways and the flats themselves to create an air of informal security towards anything that the space was being used for. the co-operative also has a flat organisational structure run by variety of working groups, plus the building incorporates many eco-friendly design ideas.

some links;

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, original site is down atm;



anyway, i know of the and e-mailed them a couple of weeks ago regarding any info on such things in scotland but haven't received a response yet. does anyone here know of any similar/related projects north of the border? i mean, would anyone here be interested in that kind of thing? Forest Heights? somewhere on the edge/suburbs of edinburgh, good transport links, space to grow our own veg, draw in visitors/cash with a café, pretty garden, theatre, recording studio, etc? thoughts?
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Postby baloo » Wed Mar 12, 2008 5:25 pm

hey milk, check out radical routes.....(dot com?)...xxx
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Postby milk » Thu Mar 13, 2008 1:06 am

found it at http://www.radicalroutes.org.uk, cheers for that. a related site of theirs; http://www.rootstock.org.uk/
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