Is this the answer to our toilet prayers?

Forest is people. People is you. You is us.
User avatar
Susana
Posts: 203
Joined: Wed Dec 12, 2007 5:15 am
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/vendor/twig/twig/lib/Twig/Extension/Core.php on line 1266: count(): Parameter must be an array or an object that implements Countable

Is this the answer to our toilet prayers?

Postby Susana » Mon Feb 25, 2008 4:21 pm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7260484.stm

£600 would go nicely towards paying someone to clean the toilets... If this came into place we would be entitled immediately to the remuneration as we are already offering this service to the community (Danny can provide fresh evidence...).

On a more sombre note, is it just my impression or is The Forest attracting more and more 'unhelpful' characters? And if that is the case could it be something to do with being the entrace to The Forest a sort of dump, with the free shop having grown so ever much? In my opinion the look of that front room was much more alluring and dignifying in the past, when it was very much a 'living' room. I know that somewhere else you talked about this in some recent past. I wonder if there are signs that we must put a stop to it now. The free shop is something simply fantastic but perhaps it needs rearranging, moving, etc.

I leave you to cogitate, if you please 8)
Susanita, la amiga tonta de Mafalda

User avatar
chris
Posts: 2638
Joined: Fri Apr 08, 2005 1:50 am
Location: heartland
Contact:

Postby chris » Mon Feb 25, 2008 5:01 pm

are you suggesting swapping the library with the free shop?

thus the libary would be in the front 'sitting room' and the freeshop in the back 'room of chaos'

User avatar
Jimmy Bastard
Posts: 1210
Joined: Fri Sep 16, 2005 4:59 pm
Location: Heaven sent, hell bent & unrepentant
Contact:

Postby Jimmy Bastard » Mon Feb 25, 2008 5:32 pm

Quote from the article
"My feeling is that this is a very watered-down attempt to encourage local authorities to act,"
(more toilet humour.)

Also I would like to see the two chairs be placed back in the front window as the weather gets better
Pep Up The Turmoil

User avatar
Susana
Posts: 203
Joined: Wed Dec 12, 2007 5:15 am
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/vendor/twig/twig/lib/Twig/Extension/Core.php on line 1266: count(): Parameter must be an array or an object that implements Countable

Postby Susana » Mon Feb 25, 2008 6:08 pm

Ah Chris, that hurts! The library is a piece of my heart, how can you play with it so flippantly? :wink: I really don't know where the free shop could go... I do love the idea of having the library in the front room but I fear that the books would disappear more quickly. I have seen some of my 'reference' books experiencing a permanent absence... (but don't cry for me Argentina, many of them would have gone to charity shops...)

I agree with Dai, bring back the chairs to the window. We need more bonhomie, watching the world pass by, while lounging on velvety chairs
Susanita, la amiga tonta de Mafalda

User avatar
Susana
Posts: 203
Joined: Wed Dec 12, 2007 5:15 am
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/vendor/twig/twig/lib/Twig/Extension/Core.php on line 1266: count(): Parameter must be an array or an object that implements Countable

Postby Susana » Mon Feb 25, 2008 6:42 pm

I was thinking, would a sort of chinese screen help? or some other type of division like curtains or so? at least the eyesore in the front room would disappear. Also if we brought the free shop to where the library is we would like some division for the same purpose and we could put the books on those trolleys that they have in libraries to move them about... and place these dividing the spaces between units made of sofas and their coffee tables... :roll:
Susanita, la amiga tonta de Mafalda

User avatar
Shannon
Posts: 2752
Joined: Tue Feb 07, 2006 4:12 pm
Location: there and then
Contact:

Postby Shannon » Mon Feb 25, 2008 7:04 pm

Sounds like Susana has an itch to take on front of house... (please do!)

User avatar
James
Posts: 1180
Joined: Sat Feb 10, 2007 5:15 pm
Location: Edinburgh
Contact:

Postby James » Mon Feb 25, 2008 11:33 pm

Maybe the free shop could move to the new shop we are planning in the radio room? That would have the advantage of being shut late at night (presumably). And people who only wanted to indulge in free shopage and didn't want to engage with the cafe would just enter and leave through the church doors?

User avatar
Susana
Posts: 203
Joined: Wed Dec 12, 2007 5:15 am
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/vendor/twig/twig/lib/Twig/Extension/Core.php on line 1266: count(): Parameter must be an array or an object that implements Countable

Postby Susana » Tue Feb 26, 2008 8:25 am

That would be ideal, actually! And what is that new shop for?
Susanita, la amiga tonta de Mafalda

User avatar
bryony
Posts: 191
Joined: Fri Dec 24, 2004 10:22 pm
Location: Edinburgh
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/vendor/twig/twig/lib/Twig/Extension/Core.php on line 1266: count(): Parameter must be an array or an object that implements Countable

Postby bryony » Tue Feb 26, 2008 12:55 pm

The free shop is great but makes it nearly impossible to keep the front room looking nice. Moving it to the (new shop?) could well be the solution.

The plants are lovely in the window, please don't move them.

User avatar
Shannon
Posts: 2752
Joined: Tue Feb 07, 2006 4:12 pm
Location: there and then
Contact:

Postby Shannon » Tue Feb 26, 2008 1:46 pm

I have a feeling that Nix would be very much against the idea of moving it in there. The room isn't that big, and it could be difficult to monitor bought goods and free goods in the same space. It might also not help the marketing of the for-sale goods...

User avatar
bryony
Posts: 191
Joined: Fri Dec 24, 2004 10:22 pm
Location: Edinburgh
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/vendor/twig/twig/lib/Twig/Extension/Core.php on line 1266: count(): Parameter must be an array or an object that implements Countable

Postby bryony » Tue Feb 26, 2008 2:21 pm

Very true, maybe we should just try and keep it more contained? The screen could be cool.

User avatar
Gandhi
Posts: 769
Joined: Thu Dec 01, 2005 8:57 pm
Location: your moms house
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/vendor/twig/twig/lib/Twig/Extension/Core.php on line 1266: count(): Parameter must be an array or an object that implements Countable

Postby Gandhi » Tue Feb 26, 2008 2:39 pm

Should a new post be put on the bb for larger items? Forest freecycle? I've been annoyed getting rid of stuff on freecycle by the amount of wasters who say they want stuff then never show up. At least if anyone from the Forest wanted something we know where to find them.
Just an idea.

Freeshop and the shop should not be together me thinks. Got a vision of people walking off with non free stuff which they thought was free. Maybe keeping the freeshop less full of the same old stuff would help. If somethings still their after a week, then it should go to charity shop. Big bins holding the stuff would keep it tidy as well.
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
It's like God's vagina!

User avatar
James
Posts: 1180
Joined: Sat Feb 10, 2007 5:15 pm
Location: Edinburgh
Contact:

Postby James » Wed Feb 27, 2008 12:30 am


User avatar
Susana
Posts: 203
Joined: Wed Dec 12, 2007 5:15 am
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/vendor/twig/twig/lib/Twig/Extension/Core.php on line 1266: count(): Parameter must be an array or an object that implements Countable

Postby Susana » Wed Feb 27, 2008 8:18 am

Susanita, la amiga tonta de Mafalda

User avatar
ravanwin
Posts: 5060
Joined: Thu Aug 26, 2004 8:08 pm
Location: edinburgh
Contact:

Postby ravanwin » Wed Feb 27, 2008 1:27 pm


User avatar
Shannon
Posts: 2752
Joined: Tue Feb 07, 2006 4:12 pm
Location: there and then
Contact:

Postby Shannon » Thu Feb 28, 2008 9:57 am


User avatar
baloo
Posts: 400
Joined: Tue Feb 14, 2006 2:53 am
Location: shoogle nifty, shark side up
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/vendor/twig/twig/lib/Twig/Extension/Core.php on line 1266: count(): Parameter must be an array or an object that implements Countable

Postby baloo » Thu Feb 28, 2008 11:54 am

up and at it.

User avatar
beev
Posts: 1626
Joined: Sat Apr 09, 2005 9:46 am
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/vendor/twig/twig/lib/Twig/Extension/Core.php on line 1266: count(): Parameter must be an array or an object that implements Countable

Postby beev » Thu Feb 28, 2008 8:19 pm


chombee
Posts: 1327
Joined: Thu Apr 20, 2006 3:01 pm
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/vendor/twig/twig/lib/Twig/Extension/Core.php on line 1266: count(): Parameter must be an array or an object that implements Countable

Postby chombee » Thu Feb 28, 2008 8:46 pm

Was in the forest today, the gold room is basically the free shop. There is the overflowing/strewn all over the place free shop, including a stack of crates as tall as a man again, then there is one table with only a couple of chairs, the free Internet, and the plants. And the message boards. That's about it.

Needs: more tables, couches, chairs, less free shop.

Something needs to be done about the free shop. On the one hand we love it, on the other hand it's out of control and the gold room is a waste of space right now.

The problem with the gold room is: out of sight of the main cafe (if only we could knock the wall down), free shop, free internet, no cafe stuff.

We can't let our hesitance to get rid of the free shop paralyse the gold room. I think if the new shop people won't take it, we need to seriously consider cutting the free shop down to size and whether there is a practical way that vollies could filter what goes into it. I don't want to see it gotten rid of though. It doesn't need to be as big as it is. I doesn't need the two big sets of shelves plus clothes rack.
I've had it with you. If I had an image of a laser gun I would absolutely position it right here in my hand...
Ha! I have a real laser absolutely positioned in my hand!

User avatar
Susana
Posts: 203
Joined: Wed Dec 12, 2007 5:15 am
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/vendor/twig/twig/lib/Twig/Extension/Core.php on line 1266: count(): Parameter must be an array or an object that implements Countable

Postby Susana » Fri Feb 29, 2008 8:16 am

Susanita, la amiga tonta de Mafalda

User avatar
beev
Posts: 1626
Joined: Sat Apr 09, 2005 9:46 am
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/vendor/twig/twig/lib/Twig/Extension/Core.php on line 1266: count(): Parameter must be an array or an object that implements Countable

Postby beev » Fri Feb 29, 2008 9:07 am


User avatar
Gandhi
Posts: 769
Joined: Thu Dec 01, 2005 8:57 pm
Location: your moms house
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/vendor/twig/twig/lib/Twig/Extension/Core.php on line 1266: count(): Parameter must be an array or an object that implements Countable

Postby Gandhi » Fri Feb 29, 2008 9:23 am

It's like God's vagina!

User avatar
swithun
Posts: 2683
Joined: Wed Mar 29, 2006 12:24 pm
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/vendor/twig/twig/lib/Twig/Extension/Core.php on line 1266: count(): Parameter must be an array or an object that implements Countable

Postby swithun » Fri Feb 29, 2008 11:03 am


User avatar
Shannon
Posts: 2752
Joined: Tue Feb 07, 2006 4:12 pm
Location: there and then
Contact:

Postby Shannon » Fri Feb 29, 2008 1:11 pm


User avatar
nix
Posts: 1231
Joined: Sat Dec 16, 2006 4:49 am
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/vendor/twig/twig/lib/Twig/Extension/Core.php on line 1266: count(): Parameter must be an array or an object that implements Countable

Postby nix » Fri Feb 29, 2008 6:14 pm


User avatar
Shannon
Posts: 2752
Joined: Tue Feb 07, 2006 4:12 pm
Location: there and then
Contact:

Postby Shannon » Sat Mar 01, 2008 12:14 pm

Keep the plants but give them a shelf somewhere in the room? If we were to put seating in the window again, where would the computer go?

User avatar
Susana
Posts: 203
Joined: Wed Dec 12, 2007 5:15 am
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/vendor/twig/twig/lib/Twig/Extension/Core.php on line 1266: count(): Parameter must be an array or an object that implements Countable

Postby Susana » Sun Mar 02, 2008 10:04 am

Nix, in my opinion this is quite a matter of urgency, so if you think that you can make it in the next week great, otherwise we may lose the momentum and forget again for a few months... We could for this occassion use Ikea but at the same time make sure that we fiind a more local resource for the candles (if we don't have it already...) on a regular basis.

Regarding the plants, could we put up a few shelves hanging from that piece of wall in the window? Also, if we decide they stay were they are, could we do something a bit more fetching with their display? for instance we could get ceramic pots for them and paint them all gold and equally paint the shelves themselves, perhaps also in gold? or in red? or everything in white? or have each individual pot painted by different artists and paint the shelves in white? or paint them in the range and order of the colour of the rainbow? (I'm remembering an anecdote: once I was passing by the Forest with an older female friend of mine and she saw the tibetan prayers hanging in the front and said.. "Ah, that is for the gay community, isn't it?" I loved her to bits)
Susanita, la amiga tonta de Mafalda

User avatar
Gandhi
Posts: 769
Joined: Thu Dec 01, 2005 8:57 pm
Location: your moms house
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/vendor/twig/twig/lib/Twig/Extension/Core.php on line 1266: count(): Parameter must be an array or an object that implements Countable

Postby Gandhi » Sun Mar 02, 2008 12:14 pm

I'm sure Bill had a contact for a local candle maker, not sure how cheap they are though! Theres a bb post about them somewhere!
It's like God's vagina!

User avatar
baloo
Posts: 400
Joined: Tue Feb 14, 2006 2:53 am
Location: shoogle nifty, shark side up
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/vendor/twig/twig/lib/Twig/Extension/Core.php on line 1266: count(): Parameter must be an array or an object that implements Countable

Postby baloo » Sun Mar 02, 2008 3:42 pm

putting plants up high will lead to people noticing even less that they are dying and need water.
action group covers enviroment and garden, plants are plants, so dont tink front o hoos/visual arts group is wherits at. I only said it coz i was scared someone would just move the plants without communication, which happens eh.
Do whatever but please let me help choose where the plants go.
They do so love the window.
(((big sigh)))
well.......ok.
should i come up with a plan for a shelf? and i so wanted to use the window to germinate seeds.........we have so many seeds......

I shall envision a compromise being had by all.
peas.x
up and at it.

User avatar
bill
Posts: 608
Joined: Tue Dec 19, 2006 7:43 pm
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/vendor/twig/twig/lib/Twig/Extension/Core.php on line 1266: count(): Parameter must be an array or an object that implements Countable

Postby bill » Sun Mar 02, 2008 7:19 pm

i feel ikea is the death of everything we need.
the opposite of permaculture

maybe read here http://www.business-humanrights.org/Cat ... ies/I/IKEA don't know if its anygood.

carberry candles is our nearest candle maker. i believe from waste veg oil. he went out of business as soon as ikea opened and imported candles cheaper. i asked where the nearest candle maker is; alston, close to where my folks live. ted makes cool candles and sells the seconds for 100 for 10pounds. cool eh?


i am not near were he lives at the mo.

User avatar
Shannon
Posts: 2752
Joined: Tue Feb 07, 2006 4:12 pm
Location: there and then
Contact:

Postby Shannon » Mon Mar 03, 2008 9:12 am


User avatar
baloo
Posts: 400
Joined: Tue Feb 14, 2006 2:53 am
Location: shoogle nifty, shark side up
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/vendor/twig/twig/lib/Twig/Extension/Core.php on line 1266: count(): Parameter must be an array or an object that implements Countable

Postby baloo » Tue Mar 04, 2008 1:36 am

cool compromise.
Perfect infact.
I agree with Bill on IKeA....
up and at it.

User avatar
Martin
Posts: 1084
Joined: Mon Sep 11, 2006 1:35 pm
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/vendor/twig/twig/lib/Twig/Extension/Core.php on line 1266: count(): Parameter must be an array or an object that implements Countable

Postby Martin » Tue Mar 04, 2008 7:06 am

It's a very tall window. Maybe some plants could live at the top of it, with seats below? Would need to figure out a good way to water them though.

User avatar
Susana
Posts: 203
Joined: Wed Dec 12, 2007 5:15 am
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/vendor/twig/twig/lib/Twig/Extension/Core.php on line 1266: count(): Parameter must be an array or an object that implements Countable

Postby Susana » Tue Mar 04, 2008 8:45 am

Indeed Martin, that was my vision too.

The compromise over the germinating plants sounds good to me too.

And would you let me buy pots and paint them in a colour voted by everybody (everybody that wants to vote..)?

I feel the urge to say again, at the risk of being a bore, that if I didn't know the Forest, I wouldn't walk in... And that has been the case for a few months now, so we may be losing on a whole academic year potential new users... :evil: Me thinks.
Susanita, la amiga tonta de Mafalda

User avatar
ravanwin
Posts: 5060
Joined: Thu Aug 26, 2004 8:08 pm
Location: edinburgh
Contact:

Postby ravanwin » Tue Mar 04, 2008 11:33 am


User avatar
Shannon
Posts: 2752
Joined: Tue Feb 07, 2006 4:12 pm
Location: there and then
Contact:

Postby Shannon » Tue Mar 04, 2008 1:46 pm


graeme
Posts: 312
Joined: Sat Oct 21, 2006 6:52 pm
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/vendor/twig/twig/lib/Twig/Extension/Core.php on line 1266: count(): Parameter must be an array or an object that implements Countable

Postby graeme » Tue Mar 04, 2008 1:54 pm


User avatar
ravanwin
Posts: 5060
Joined: Thu Aug 26, 2004 8:08 pm
Location: edinburgh
Contact:

Postby ravanwin » Tue Mar 04, 2008 2:22 pm


User avatar
nix
Posts: 1231
Joined: Sat Dec 16, 2006 4:49 am
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/vendor/twig/twig/lib/Twig/Extension/Core.php on line 1266: count(): Parameter must be an array or an object that implements Countable

Postby nix » Tue Mar 04, 2008 4:31 pm

Yesterday I had a thought that the window could be mixed use...

the plants and one comfy chair for a clever person to read in and the computer could move to where the "forest shop" cabinet is now.. at standing hight. so you simply cant sit at it.

if we still have a spare flat screen, after the Action Room is sorted, it could be wall mounted, and a wee shelf built for the keyboard..?

how about it?

and we MUST build the partition wall for the FreeShop.

We need the freeshop, but we also need the front-room back!

Michail described the space as "like the room at the Doctors where you wait to do inside.."

that is not the vibe we need.

I propose this coming SATURDAY MORNING 10 - 12 as a time for a "Building in the Red Room" Meeting.. I will be there trying to find a way to move the computer..

anyone object? anyone want to help?

LOVE

User avatar
nix
Posts: 1231
Joined: Sat Dec 16, 2006 4:49 am
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/vendor/twig/twig/lib/Twig/Extension/Core.php on line 1266: count(): Parameter must be an array or an object that implements Countable

Postby nix » Tue Mar 04, 2008 5:30 pm

oopoops,

stupid nix.

I will be at the meeting on Sat.

but the Red Room will be nice soon.

User avatar
condoleeza rice
Posts: 6
Joined: Thu Feb 21, 2008 9:58 pm
Location: states
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/vendor/twig/twig/lib/Twig/Extension/Core.php on line 1266: count(): Parameter must be an array or an object that implements Countable

Postby condoleeza rice » Tue Mar 04, 2008 8:06 pm

i am seriously opposed to buying stuff from ikea.

i feel they are a multinational conglomerate with their fingers up their own pies.


it is amazing that we are paying attention to how we appear. and it is well to think about these things. i do not feel like the forest should have things from ikea in this representation of ourselves. i will be happy to build something this sunday from something nice. if this is ok would be cool to meet with somepeoples to discuss where exactly it could go.


x
"Does anybody think these people were just sitting around drinking tea?"

User avatar
bill
Posts: 608
Joined: Tue Dec 19, 2006 7:43 pm
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/vendor/twig/twig/lib/Twig/Extension/Core.php on line 1266: count(): Parameter must be an array or an object that implements Countable

Postby bill » Tue Mar 04, 2008 8:13 pm

i'd be happy to help?

User avatar
James
Posts: 1180
Joined: Sat Feb 10, 2007 5:15 pm
Location: Edinburgh
Contact:

Postby James » Wed Mar 05, 2008 9:36 am


User avatar
Martin
Posts: 1084
Joined: Mon Sep 11, 2006 1:35 pm
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/vendor/twig/twig/lib/Twig/Extension/Core.php on line 1266: count(): Parameter must be an array or an object that implements Countable

Postby Martin » Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:30 am


User avatar
nix
Posts: 1231
Joined: Sat Dec 16, 2006 4:49 am
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/vendor/twig/twig/lib/Twig/Extension/Core.php on line 1266: count(): Parameter must be an array or an object that implements Countable

Postby nix » Wed Mar 05, 2008 12:45 pm


User avatar
Martin
Posts: 1084
Joined: Mon Sep 11, 2006 1:35 pm
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/vendor/twig/twig/lib/Twig/Extension/Core.php on line 1266: count(): Parameter must be an array or an object that implements Countable

Postby Martin » Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:05 pm


User avatar
Susana
Posts: 203
Joined: Wed Dec 12, 2007 5:15 am
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/vendor/twig/twig/lib/Twig/Extension/Core.php on line 1266: count(): Parameter must be an array or an object that implements Countable

Postby Susana » Thu Mar 06, 2008 9:55 am

So, Nix and me decided to meet on Friday at 1 to do the work needed in the front room. Do join us if you like. :arrow: :arrow: :arrow:
Susanita, la amiga tonta de Mafalda

User avatar
Shannon
Posts: 2752
Joined: Tue Feb 07, 2006 4:12 pm
Location: there and then
Contact:

Postby Shannon » Thu Mar 06, 2008 11:59 am

I'll be in too.

User avatar
baloo
Posts: 400
Joined: Tue Feb 14, 2006 2:53 am
Location: shoogle nifty, shark side up
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/vendor/twig/twig/lib/Twig/Extension/Core.php on line 1266: count(): Parameter must be an array or an object that implements Countable

Postby baloo » Fri Mar 07, 2008 6:01 pm

up and at it.

User avatar
bill
Posts: 608
Joined: Tue Dec 19, 2006 7:43 pm
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/vendor/twig/twig/lib/Twig/Extension/Core.php on line 1266: count(): Parameter must be an array or an object that implements Countable

Postby bill » Fri Mar 07, 2008 9:25 pm



[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/vendor/twig/twig/lib/Twig/Extension/Core.php on line 1266: count(): Parameter must be an array or an object that implements Countable

Return to “The People's Forum”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot] and 6 guests